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Thursday, July 30, 2020

PS - A Reply to Someone Elsewhere on Hydroxychloroquine ...


(Updated x3) 

After I wrote my below post, I went looking around on other social media sites, and found someone still trying to tout the wonders of hydroxychloroquine, trying to use its recent trials in oncology as "proof" Dr. Fauci is "hiding something."

I sincerely don't understand what that commenter is trying to say.  

Thus, I wrote the below reply, here's an exact copy: 

DR – Hydroxychloroquine has anti-inflammatory properties, much like steroids – neither of which are an actual cure for anything, as far as we know (at least we do not have the evidence yet) – just treatment to reduce inflammation caused by varying diseases, it’s essentially symptom treatment.
Hydroxychloroquine is also a powerful immunosuppressant, and thus has become of interest in combination with newer immunologic treatments for cancer. However, it can also actually make you susceptible to other infectious diseases, because of that immunosuppression.

Regardless, although there are some strong correlative links found between virology and certain types of cancer, at present, there still is not enough evidence, and cancer/oncology is still a completely separate field than infectious disease and virology. 
Thus, I’m having trouble connecting the same dots you’ve connected here, I guess I’m not understanding your point?
I’m also having trouble understanding why you do believe hydroxychloroquine is the answer – is there some actual data and evidence we’ve overlooked? 

Because I could state that common aspirin is the cure for COVID – doesn’t mean it is, without evidence, and it also doesn’t mean you’re hiding something, just because you disagree with me about aspirtin, based on that lack of evidence.


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Update:  Though "DR" returned and commented in the same thread, he completely ignored me -  and the  actual blog owner answered me instead, with this non-answer: 


Certainly is, by the doctors and the reports that got out from under the smothering blanket, as we’ve shown some of.



Thus, my reply: 


Sorry, JH, I don't read here everyday, must've missed them - would you mind sharing those studies and sources on the actual efficacy of hydroxychloroquine against COVID again?  

However, the real question, here, was addressed to DR, asking if he could explain further the connection he was trying to make between the use of hydroxychloroquine in oncology vs its use with COVID, because he lost me, that time.



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Update x2 - Though my 2nd comment was initially published publicly (at least an hour or so ago?) - it has since disappeared.  

Thus, I tried to paste the comment again, in case it was a mistake -  but apparently, I am blocked now???


Strange, I'm sure I saw this comment published earlier, but it's now disappeared? Here is it again:  
Sorry, JH, I don't read here everyday, must've missed them - would you mind sharing those studies and sources on the actual efficacy of hydroxychloroquine against COVID again?  
However, the real question, here, was addressed to DR, asking if he could explain further the connection he was trying to make between the use of hydroxychloroquine in oncology vs its use with COVID, because he lost me, that time.


However, I've apparently been blocked from commenting now, it would seem - and why is that?

Talk about stuff seeming fishy and hiding things basic on politics, and encouraging us lefties not to believe things blindly, just because certain people say so.

Thus, though of course, I haven't proof, odd antics such as that DO lead me to wonder, if this isn't yet another clear-cut case of projection by Trump-supporting political right - accusing others of what they do/would do, themselves? 


How can Trump-supporting right wingers expect anyone to seriously consider listening and reading what they have to say, trusting their "alternative information," if they refuse to provide links/sources when asked, and can't even be ethical and honest about goings-on in their own comment sections? 

Never mind, I just answered my question myself, should've been rhetorical lol.


Update x3:



It appears that DR has since left a link - which is of course leads directly to a white paper - that references studies, without presenting any itself - written by the small group of whackos known as America's Frontline Doctors - LOL!

Hilarious - are they serious with that?

OMG - they were.

Please see this morning's post on the spokesperson's strange beliefs about "demon sperm" and vaccinations by their leader, Dr. Stella Immanuel, written this morning, before I even read there. 


Thus, I left this comment under another post, just in case it was a glitch under the other post, but apparently I was blocked there too? 


I can't seem to reply below, but the link that DR provided below is written by America's Frontline Doctors, who I wrote about earlier this morning before reading here.  
It is headed by a small group of non-infectious disease, emergency medicine, virology, epidemiology, or clinical research physicians, headed by Dr. Stella Immanuel - who also believes that you can have astral sex with demons and witches. 

https://youtu.be/CJrJG9xymts








Additionally, I was unable to find Fauci's contribution to the Virology Journal from August 22, 2005, but even if he did, the study says that it was effective for that particular virus, in controlled cell dish experiments - not live people. 

And just an FYI ... 


In fact, this link is to the NIH study published on August 22, 2005 on the SARS-CoV1 - *NOT SARS-CoV2* - which is the current virus.


Additionally, note there's no mention of Fauci's contribution or authorship.  

Also,  I have since searched directly the Virology Journal, August 2005, which was  also quoted by the actual blog owner within the post itself, via a small pic of a portion of someone's social media post; however, I was unable to find any articles or studies by, or even even discussion with, Dr. Fauci, on this subject. 

Lastly, I need to add, here, there was actually a typo in my last reply - I typed "America's Firstline Doctors," when it's actually "America's Frontline Doctors," which I've corrected in the above copy of my comment for clarification.








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