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Since I closed my comments years ago - ironically, due to the last time these extremely words were spoken to me - feel free to email/chat/call me and let me know your answer/thoughts?
So if someone says to you "If you try to tell anyone, no one will believe you, you don't have proof. Everyone loves me here."
Is that as scary as it sounds or no big deal?
When I heard those words before, I didn't take them as the red flag I should have, let's just put it that way, and bad things happened.
(Well, to be fair, I started to doubt myself, which I'm doing again now.)
That was in my personal life though - this time, it was a coworker.
She's been there 2 years - me, only 6 months - and it's remote.
They're right, though, I don't have proof.
I wondered at first if I'd overreacted based on the last time someone said that to me and tried to separate that out.
I called EAP and got back into therapy.
They said my body's reaction to it (chills, shaking) were based on past experience and may be an overreaction, but that really is a scary thing to say, it's not normal.
My therapist and I went over it and over it, because I told her I am the common denominator here.
After a few sessions, the gist - NOT VERBATIM - of what my therapist has said overall was:
Therapist: "Sure, you are the common denominator, but maybe not for the reasons that you think."
"What comes off you is you're extremely kind, funny, and smart - but you also clearly doubt yourself, don't think very much of yourself, make fun of yourself a lot, blame yourself a lot. That rings like a dinner bell for bullies and they're gonna use it, manipulate you, pick at you to feel superior, then get you to blame yourself for it.."
"What we do know about people with even covert bullying qualities is that they do what they do because they're insecure and unaware of it."
"So here comes you, kicking it with high scores, doing extremely well at your job, right out the gate - but you're also very open with your insecurities, doubt yourself, apologize a lot for thing you don't need to. And she can probably sense damaged boundaries from childhood. You're openly aware of your flaws and insecurities. She has no idea of hers. So she's gonna work yours to feel superior."
"Did it ever even occur to you this may have happened not because you did something wrong, but because you're doing something right?"
"Not because you ARE better, but just because she's AFRAID you are?"
Me: "Um .... no. You mean like she's jealous? I guess I realized she had sort of competition with me going on only in her head, but actual jealousy? I'd have to think about that. It's really hard to believe that anyone could ever be jealous of me. I mean, look at my life, who would be? lol"
"The only person ever in my life, that I know of, who was ever jealous of me was my older sister, but I didn't even realize that until we'd been estranged for years, just a few years ago, why she did the horrible things she did, particularly trying to drive a wedge between myself and daughter. It's obvious now, of course, looking back, but it wasn't at the time."
"In fact, that's really hard for me to even let myself think about, because anytime my mother had a problem with anybody, it was always because they were jealous of her lol. It just seems like a narcissistic thing to even think about."
Therapist: "Yeah, but sometimes, it's true. And the difference between you and your mother is, you didn't come in here saying that - instead, you said "What's wrong with ME?"
"Your mother never even considers anything is her fault, doesn't doubt herself, she doesn't even wanna look - but that's the first place you go."
"And even when someone tells you it isn't your fault, this person did this out of their own issues, you still don't believe it lol."
Good point lol.
My review was glowing, And I do have the highest quality scores and am second highest in productivity, and I do tend to crack people up in tense moments?
Regardless, both EAP - and that therapist later - said I should at least try to tell somebody rather than run immediately, and wait and see if I'm believed - if for nothing else, so they have it on record in case it happens to somebody else.
And if/when they make her apologize or she does on her own, it's okay to be skeptical. She could even be sincere, but just not self-aware enough to understand why she's doing this stuff.
How many times did your ex apologize sincerely, you went right back, only to have it happen again?
So I did try to tell - not HR, just management.
I didn't want a bunch of drama by going to HR, plus she's right, I had no proof but my call log, not what she said.
I'm pretty sure I wasn't believed - because I thought they'd been monitoring her communication with me since, but it's clear they weren't.
My team leader has literally said "She would never say something mean to anybody."
To be fair, though, I wouldn't have believed she was capable either, until she called me on my personal cell when the boss was away. Shocked the shit outta me.
Best job of my life in a field that's being replaced by AI and I'm 56.
It sucks not being believed.
You look like a paranoid nut and a joke, even though you stayed calm and were telling the truth.
Like I said, I've been there 6 months, she's been there 2 years (all remote). I mean, ya can't fight that as a new person - it only makes you look like trouble.
All you can do is wait until they do it to somebody else new, I guess.
Well, at least I tried to tell someone this time, stayed calm, didn't doubt myself like previously - NOR just run away immediately based on past experience, like I wanted?
Not it makes a difference either way. In fact, it's almost worse - had I just quit the day it happened and let them wonder, I'd feel better than feeling like the nut job and the joke.
I tried, but she was right - no one believed me and I had no proof.
Thus, the self-doubt is starting to creep in again - not that she didn't really say that, I'm 100% sure she did.
But maybe I did do something to bring that on myself that I'm not self-aware of?
Or that what she said and did isn't that bad and I overreacted?
Let me know what you think through private channels.









